Happy birthday!
Congratulations to the new HCDO Chair, Amy DeGise!
Congratulations to North Bergen Councilwomen Tiffanie Fisher and Jen Giattino-- you own the next round of DeGise tax hikes!
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Strong turnout from Hoboken! The above tune is for the 10 Union City committee members who went AWOL tonight*. (*this is satire) But really, I wouldn't want to be you*. (*more satire) Not when Brian finds you*. (*ask him)
Thanks to the lovely John Heinis of Hudson County View for taking attendance at the Stack v DeGise HCDO showdown tonight! Courtesy of Hudson Country View:
Jersey City – 294
Bayonne – 96
North Bergen – 78
Hoboken – 70
Union City – 64
Kearny – 58
Secaucus – 20
Harrison – 22
Guttenberg – 12
East Newark – 4
Stay tuned for the result people! Unless I drop off first!
Tippy #TheStorm Councilbabe and Princess Gia #SpyGate Councilbabe will turn the tide for Ivanka-for-a-Day Degise!
ReplyDeleteAnyone know how she feels about uber-tight tennis whities? Does she just think they're hot or incredibly hot? It's always one or the other. Hope she doesn't mind when I call her Ivanka.......
Well, this is bad news.
ReplyDeleteI don't know if Hoboken is any worse off than it was. Was Stack going to lower our taxes? Will team Sacco? Sacco likes Hoboken precisely because it overpays its share, not because he felt bad and wanted to help out. Somehow Tiffanie and Jen didn't get that. They don't get much. I suspect they mostly embarrassed themselves again with the latest round of palace intrigue rather than displaying to their would-be North Bergen masters how well they can deliver votes.
DeletePray for Degise. She's in a den of vipers. I don't think anything she's done in professional or political life will prepare her for the sh!t storm that's coming.
Pray for her? Not likely - I want her to drown. If she didn't know what she was getting into, shame on her and her daddy.
DeleteWait, are you saying her election WASN’T based on Nick Sacco, Vinnie Prieto, Mike Gionelli, Jimmie Davis and Al Santos wanting to break up the HCDO boys club and adopt a more feminist outlook? Are you sure? But everyone said....
DeleteHi, snoop-ster. By "drown" you mean figuratively.
DeleteMy 2 cents: DeGise won fair and square. I did NOT support her for reasons I've posted ad nauseum, but now that she won, as a fellow Dem I want her to succeed.
She is going to have it rough. The HudCo Club for Men only embraced her because she's a relative, and probably feel she can be manipulated. We'll never know what happens behind closed doors, but hopefully she'll be an activist for the Democratic Party. We have Republican ass to kick in 2018. No time to waste on internecine warfare at the County.
I agree on priorities. The problem is the butt-hurts keep inviting Sacco to make himself at home. Stack we’re stuck with. He’s our senator. But he seems to understand that Hoboken will go its own way. Sacco on the other hand.....
DeleteGA - yes, drown was figurative. I was responding to Dang's comment, "Pray for Degise. She's in a den of vipers. I don't think anything she's done in professional or political life will prepare her for the sh!t storm that's coming."
DeleteI think she'll drown in the shit.
I don't want DeGise to succeed - at least not based on what she would measure success by. Team Tax & Spend wants to drown Hoboken in a sea of rising tax bills. She is on that team just like her old man. I want her to fail miserably and I want her father to fail as well. It is time to kick old man DeGise and all those who back his spendthrift ways to the curb.
DeleteAnd yes, that means Jen and Tiff too since they have signed on to Team Tax & Spend.
A few thoughts on what happened:
ReplyDeleteFirst, Hoboken did an incredible job at turning people out- 70 committee members showed up. And while the votes are secret, it seems like this probably produced a net voting margin for Stack in excess of 60. Nothing more could have been expected from Hoboken.
Next, Steve Fulop really dropped the ball. DeGise won by 92 votes. This could not have happened without many Jersey City members voting for her. And relative to other towns, many more Jersey City members were just missing. From the reports in the media, it does not seem as if Fulop worked hard to convince his City's members to support Stack or otherwise turn out the vote.
Finally, I'm not sure if anything could have changed the outcome, at least from the moment that the County Exec was told in that diner that his time was done. The fact is that Stack was a flawed candidate in this race. His endorsement of Christie was hung around his neck. There were a lot of voters open to persuasion, especially in Jersey City, and it clearly was a leap too far for them to vote for Stack to lead the Democratic Party in Hudson County. Maybe if Stack had done better in West New York's committee elections, and Fulop had actually fought for his candidate, it would have been closer, but it's possible that both of those things would not have been enough to close the gap.
Going back in hindsight, Stack had two ways to guarantee a win for County Democratic Chair. One would have been to stab DeGise in the back, rather than charging at his front from a hundred feet away screaming "I'm gonna kill you!" Stack could have waited until after he won Chair- his support was pretty unanimous, so he would have been unopposed- and then turned on DeGise. I haven't seen any explanation for why he needed to tell DeGise before the County Chair election happened that he was out. The other thing Stack could have done that would have made the difference would have been to not endorse Christie back in 2013. If he'd been a good Democrat he would have gotten a lot more net votes. He's paying for that now.
Thanks. Hoboken Dem. Agree with almost everything you said. Not so much on the Christie stuff- the impact could have been muted, only it dropped at the 11th hour.
DeleteMy 2 cents: As mayors, both Zimmer and Stack were "nice" to Christie, although Dawn drew the line at an endorsement for his re-election. But when Zimmer and Gov. Christie were on good terms, he 'gave" Hoboken $5M to keep St. Mary's Hospital from closing. Nobody complained (except the Beth Mason crew). I don't know what Union City "got" for Stack's Christie endorsement. Christie must have sweetened the pot. Mind you, I DON'T AGREE WITH STACK'S CHRISTIE ENDORSEMENT personally, I agreed with Dawn's choice. But I do believe as mayor, Stack did what he thought was in the best interest of Union City. I could be wrong, but Stack really went against the flow on that one. Dem candidate Barbara Buono was none too happy, of course.
But yeah, that did probably hurt him last night.
Are numbers available yet?
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