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| Super Stack says: "I'm no schmuck!" |
Our neighbor to the south, Jersey City, paid $486 in County taxes per resident last year, and our neighbor to the northwest, Union City, paid $253 per resident, while Hoboken paid $1,400 per resident to the County!
Take a look.
Hoboken residents do not want to hear that old tired bullshit: "it's the formula, it's the formula!"
Okay, then pass us Brian Stack's formula 'cause our formula sucks. Our formula costs 5 1/2 times more than Stack's.
Seriously. County Executive Tom DeGise has idled for years, while Hoboken got screwed deeper and harder. Has the County helped fund any public amenity for Hoboken? North Bergen, Secaucus, Union City, Jersey City and West New York have swimming pools. Nice pools.
Hoboken is in a strong position to negotiate tax relief and/or a public benefit from our future County Executive, to whom we have pledged our support.
#EnoughCountyScrewing
How about letting Hoboken keep the County portion of our PILOT payments? How about funding a public pool? How about cutting spending including patronage jobs?
Hoboken peeps need to wake up. The County is hurting us- and Hoboken's dwindling middle class is really feeling it.
Mayor Bhalla! Please intercede. Hoboken needs County tax relief. What is County Executive [Stack's Choice] going to do for us?
Probably not much. To folks like Brian Stack and the rest of hudco, Hoboken is paying their "fair share". It's actually a platform Gov. Murphy ran on. Tax the rich to pay for the services for others. Union City's income per capita is $18,000/year. Hoboken's is $70,000/year. That's why we pay more. I doubt Stack, who has voted to raise taxes over 100 times in the legislature, really cares.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your 2 cents, Eddie from Trenton. The County can offset the screwing a number of ways, including reducing spending. Yeah, we needed that golf course. But you are right that hudco doesn't give a shit about Hoboken- they look at us like a big juicy cow with swollen udders to milk. BTW- $70K is not "rich" in Hoboken.
DeleteThis might be one of the dumber responses from Trenton. Stack's constituents pay for wasteful spending just like Hoboken's residents. We just may more per capita for the waste but we all pay. And I bet a person making $18K cares a hell of a lot more that part of their tax bill goes to wasteful spending than someone making $70K.
DeleteIt's not rich in Hoboken, but it is rich relative to UC or the rest of hudco. Agreed on spending reduction...
DeleteOjo, why do you get so triggered every time I say something? I agree there is a ton of waste at the county level. We are also now seeing this at the state level as our governor just proposed a budget with 2 billion dollars of new taxes. GA asked "what Hudson County Executive Stack" is going to do for us, and the answer is probably not much. As she said in her response, we are a cash cow for the county......
DeleteMurphy needs to raise taxes you twit. The state's pension plans are about 2 inches from sliding off a cliff. The problem with the budget isn't the tax increase, it is that he isn't sending all $2 billion straight to the pension plan and holding the line on spending everywhere else.
DeleteAs for why you annoy me, you don't strike me as someone who cares about good governance. You are here to stir up trouble and seems like you support all the wrong people. Not a fan of political operatives like you.
Needs to? He could switch state health benefit plans from platinum to gold which would save the state over $1 billion/year. He just gave $150 million in retroactive pay increases to the CWA that was unnecessary. He could dedicate the $376 million projected surplus to property tax relief (or pensions). Etc etc. We are getting close to that $2 billion dollar number......All of that savings could go to pensions if that's what you think we should do, without raising taxes.
DeleteYou really are obtuse. You just agreed with me and you are too stupid to realize that.
DeleteNo that is incorrect. You literally just said "Murphy needs to raise taxes (you twit)". And I said no he doesnt because the money is already there, it just needs to be spent differently. I then outlined 1.5 billion in savings that would offset his 1.8 billion proposed increase. Im sure I could find another 300 mil to save and it'd be totally offset without raising the taxes you said that he "needs to".
DeleteYou are an idiot. The money is not there. There is no surplus - not when you look holistically at the budget and the pension plans. The state is running a massive structural deficit and has been for years - and masking it by not adequately funding pensions for the last 2 decades. The state probably needs to raise taxes by between $3 to $4 billion right now just to raise the necessary funds to get the pension plans to stability. Your solution not only does nothing to address this massive problem - you even go so far as to suggest something that is not only illegal, but if it were legal, Christie would have done it years ago! Or are you dumb enough to believe any governor can with the stroke of a pen unilaterally rewrite collective bargaining agreements and cut health benefits?
DeletePlease, take your foolish talking points elsewhere.
Ugh, this is silly because again you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. And it's difficult to have a conversation with you when all you do is take petty shots at me. "idiot, dumb, obtuse, stupid" you realize you sound like a small child, right? Any change would have to be made legislatively, but the governor can absolutely put it in his proposed budget with the "stroke of a pen". Just as he put in revenue from Marijuana sales, even though marijuana sales are still illegal. You claim to be of "good government", but your only solution is tax tax tax. It's lazy. If you look for cost saving measures, like changing benefits from platinum to gold, you can find the money. Just like hudco can find the money without screwing hoboken if it made some cost savings reforms.
DeleteConsidering between the two of us, I am the only one who has bothered to read the state's CAFR, budget and actuarial valuations for all of the state's pension plans, I disagree.
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DeleteStop making silly assumptions
DeleteIt isn't silly if you can't understand the state is currently under-funding pensions by $3-4bn a year between the fact the state is about $2bn below ARC and using artificially high assumed rates of return. Your responses clearly indicate if you read anything, you retained absolutely no knowledge.
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