I know, it's annoying to see the posters for the opposition, but street postings (as long as it's not on trees) is one of the only free ways to communicate a message. I'm all for public notices, flyers, lost pet notices. Don't waste Leo's time - just get out and vote.
So you have no problem with "street postings" on private property? How about graffiti? Then you wouldn't mind someone plastering the walls of your home with "street postings"?
Leo works for us. Keeping our city clean is not a "waste" of Leo's time.
There are public message boards at bus shelters and in supermarkets. Branco's slate can tap the Mason Brinks truck, they don't need freebies. The slate with the least amount of funds, Parents for Progress, is running a clean campaign- clean in every way.
Telephone poles are private property? Really? Where can I purchase one? As far as empty storefronts, fine with me if public announcements are posted there - it's part of the urban landscape, has been for decades. As far as my home goes, I don't see any pictures of posters placed on private homes in your article that you were complaining about, but, nice try, that's called conflating, but I will say if there is an empty storefront on the ground floor of the building that my home is in and someone post a notice for a lost pet or an upcoming gate sale, no problem. Likewise with the Mason Brinks truck, not part of the article and, for the record, I don't have any problem with election vehicles making announcements around town...just with the video and announcements that were coming out of THAT particular distasteful election vehicle. Years ago when one of my friends was a kid her campaigning dad put her on a mic and drove the car around the neighborhood while she asks the residents to "vote for her dad." Don't see that as any different than the kids in this election passing out literature at the path station (which turns into litter on the streets - so maybe the car and mic is better.) Some graffiti is considered art and, in urban environments some graffiti walls are preserved but maybe you're part of that "turn the city into short hills crowd." As far as Leo working for "us" - oh yeah, that's right, he's our servant and he has to run around like a chicken with his head cut off because our delicate sensibilities are offended by a poster on a telephone poll. I'm sure he has nothing else more important to do when one of us brats calls him and says, "Leo, drop everything and go pull down a poster from a flag pole." Glad you approve of citizens having the right to put up posters on the 12 spots in town where placing notice IS allowed. By the way, there are many REAL reasons to vote for PfP. Whether or not they've ever "littered" is NOT one of them. And whether or not the Mason/Raia crew needs freebies, other organizations and low income people do (not to mention those lost cats and dogs.) When we start pitchin' hissy fits because Mason/Raia can pay for ads elsewhere, we harm the need for every day citizens to have a way to get out a message. Maybe you'd be happier in the quiet peaceful suburbs.
Oh, brother. Phone poles are the property of utility companies.
Ah, go screw your "short hills crowd" and "happier in the suburbs" snark. "Some graffiti is art"- duh. There is no equivalency between political campaign signage and a "citizen" putting up a notice for a lost puppy or yard sale.
This campaign crap which will decompose in the elements and/or fall off eventually and blow around in the street. Maybe you want to pick up this garbage?
oh, you mean those PUBLIC utilities that our government regulates? Sounds like our tax monies are in the mix and should give us a little space for messaging. yeah sure, campaign lit is different than a lost puppy, but what about posting for a public meeting from the people for a public waterfront or hoboken fair housing or fund for a better waterfront? Where do YOU draw the line? (probably with the groups you like which means people for a public waterfront are are like a lost puppy and fund for a better waterfront and the hoboken fair housing are like campaign lit.) I agree with the person that said that people should be required to clean up after the campaign or be fined. By the way, love that you had to resort to retorts like "screw you" shows that the original post suggesting that we should vote for PfP because they don't post on polls was pretty lame.
So, no signs for lost puppies and kittens, eh? You follow the rules, eh? I remember another society that just followed the orders; didn't know you supported that sort of thing. That's too bad.
Personally I don't have an issue with campaign flyers put up around town, BUT I do think campaigns should be required to come in and remove them after the election or be FINED. If anyone is swayed by flyers, or mailers, or election trucks they should have their head examined.
I know, it's annoying to see the posters for the opposition, but street postings (as long as it's not on trees) is one of the only free ways to communicate a message. I'm all for public notices, flyers, lost pet notices. Don't waste Leo's time - just get out and vote.
ReplyDeleteSo you have no problem with "street postings" on private property? How about graffiti? Then you wouldn't mind someone plastering the walls of your home with "street postings"?
DeleteLeo works for us. Keeping our city clean is not a "waste" of Leo's time.
There are public message boards at bus shelters and in supermarkets. Branco's slate can tap the Mason Brinks truck, they don't need freebies. The slate with the least amount of funds, Parents for Progress, is running a clean campaign- clean in every way.
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Telephone poles are private property? Really? Where can I purchase one? As far as empty storefronts, fine with me if public announcements are posted there - it's part of the urban landscape, has been for decades. As far as my home goes, I don't see any pictures of posters placed on private homes in your article that you were complaining about, but, nice try, that's called conflating, but I will say if there is an empty storefront on the ground floor of the building that my home is in and someone post a notice for a lost pet or an upcoming gate sale, no problem. Likewise with the Mason Brinks truck, not part of the article and, for the record, I don't have any problem with election vehicles making announcements around town...just with the video and announcements that were coming out of THAT particular distasteful election vehicle. Years ago when one of my friends was a kid her campaigning dad put her on a mic and drove the car around the neighborhood while she asks the residents to "vote for her dad." Don't see that as any different than the kids in this election passing out literature at the path station (which turns into litter on the streets - so maybe the car and mic is better.) Some graffiti is considered art and, in urban environments some graffiti walls are preserved but maybe you're part of that "turn the city into short hills crowd." As far as Leo working for "us" - oh yeah, that's right, he's our servant and he has to run around like a chicken with his head cut off because our delicate sensibilities are offended by a poster on a telephone poll. I'm sure he has nothing else more important to do when one of us brats calls him and says, "Leo, drop everything and go pull down a poster from a flag pole." Glad you approve of citizens having the right to put up posters on the 12 spots in town where placing notice IS allowed. By the way, there are many REAL reasons to vote for PfP. Whether or not they've ever "littered" is NOT one of them. And whether or not the Mason/Raia crew needs freebies, other organizations and low income people do (not to mention those lost cats and dogs.) When we start pitchin' hissy fits because Mason/Raia can pay for ads elsewhere, we harm the need for every day citizens to have a way to get out a message. Maybe you'd be happier in the quiet peaceful suburbs.
ReplyDeleteOh, brother. Phone poles are the property of utility companies.
DeleteAh, go screw your "short hills crowd" and "happier in the suburbs" snark. "Some graffiti is art"- duh. There is no equivalency between political campaign signage and a "citizen" putting up a notice for a lost puppy or yard sale.
This campaign crap which will decompose in the elements and/or fall off eventually and blow around in the street. Maybe you want to pick up this garbage?
oh, you mean those PUBLIC utilities that our government regulates? Sounds like our tax monies are in the mix and should give us a little space for messaging. yeah sure, campaign lit is different than a lost puppy, but what about posting for a public meeting from the people for a public waterfront or hoboken fair housing or fund for a better waterfront? Where do YOU draw the line? (probably with the groups you like which means people for a public waterfront are are like a lost puppy and fund for a better waterfront and the hoboken fair housing are like campaign lit.) I agree with the person that said that people should be required to clean up after the campaign or be fined. By the way, love that you had to resort to retorts like "screw you" shows that the original post suggesting that we should vote for PfP because they don't post on polls was pretty lame.
DeleteYeah, and you shimmy up the phone pole to fix loose connections and run wire, too?
DeleteNo, the retort was "screw your SNARK", such as "Maybe you'd be happier in the quiet peaceful suburbs" and so on.
Where do I draw the line? I don't draw lines, I follow rules.
So, no signs for lost puppies and kittens, eh? You follow the rules, eh? I remember another society that just followed the orders; didn't know you supported that sort of thing. That's too bad.
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DeletePersonally I don't have an issue with campaign flyers put up around town, BUT I do think campaigns should be required to come in and remove them after the election or be FINED.
ReplyDeleteIf anyone is swayed by flyers, or mailers, or election trucks they should have their head examined.
We have the day off. So don't bother calling us to complain today. Thank you.
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