tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post5800561060212699915..comments2023-09-17T06:34:32.273-04:00Comments on Grafix Avenger: KNOW the group you joinGrafix_Avengerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09277322207313098473noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-14887850318740496332015-12-24T13:28:23.615-05:002015-12-24T13:28:23.615-05:00Scrolling through a petition's comments at 6 a...Scrolling through a petition's comments at 6 am. Sounds like the work of a politico or a loon like assilem who does their commenting in the wee hoursAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-33283721409726514902015-12-24T12:50:24.900-05:002015-12-24T12:50:24.900-05:00It seems that the pot stirrers need to fixate on s...It seems that the pot stirrers need to fixate on someone who is the alleged puppet master that is really running the Mayor's office. It used to be those damn Lenzbians, and now it is the Stanophiles. It is great comedy watching them get all lathered up with faux indignation in their zeal to paint the Mayor as a know nothing dilettante. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-54363038127016358232015-12-24T10:49:07.857-05:002015-12-24T10:49:07.857-05:00Anon 5:56am- Grossbard has a right to voice his op...Anon 5:56am- Grossbard has a right to voice his opinion, like every Hoboken resident. He has not accused anyone of a crime or corruption. Btw, I disagree with him- DEP engineers are probably a bunch of geeks and nerds drafting up a range of possibilities "FOR DISCUSSION ONLY." That is what they do. Some really suck, some may work for us. That is the purpose of this exercise. And residents are rejecting the idea of walls on our streets. No more, no less. I don't understand how that translates to "mismanagement." Well, everybody knows about Grossbard. STAN + A = SATAN.Grafix_Avengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09277322207313098473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-16042878401143363792015-12-24T10:24:31.879-05:002015-12-24T10:24:31.879-05:00you could write ANYONE's name on that petition...you could write ANYONE's name on that petition. Remember that Dual Job Dawn nonsense Beth tried to stir up years ago? THat petition had names Like "Mama 5 Bucks a Tow" "Belmar SHore House". It's a jokeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-1251150531822902592015-12-24T05:56:37.607-05:002015-12-24T05:56:37.607-05:00I just scrolled through some of the names on the c...I just scrolled through some of the names on the change.org petition these folks put up. I was shocked to see Stan Grossbard's name there. Any idea if that's actually the Mayor's husband? He said, "Because the DEP has clearly mismanaged this project and must eliminate Plan A." <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-43044884168242551862015-12-23T17:51:46.942-05:002015-12-23T17:51:46.942-05:00Yes, I was actually thinking about Lane B myselfYes, I was actually thinking about Lane B myselfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-25350008007722620362015-12-23T16:12:36.386-05:002015-12-23T16:12:36.386-05:00I M 1:34 - My mistake I confused one Morales for a...I M 1:34 - My mistake I confused one Morales for another.<br /><br />You would think someone who is a credentialed TV news person would not make public accusations without proof no matter what her own personal finances are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-87558476872113233972015-12-23T15:56:45.654-05:002015-12-23T15:56:45.654-05:00Ace
Pffftttt! Ace<br /><br />Pffftttt! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-14103788271826190472015-12-23T15:16:57.114-05:002015-12-23T15:16:57.114-05:00Anon @ 1:34 pm- How do you know Morales supported ...Anon @ 1:34 pm- How do you know Morales supported Garcia? Never heard that. Grafix_Avengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09277322207313098473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-35045123287044106122015-12-23T14:49:41.212-05:002015-12-23T14:49:41.212-05:00Well, that got ugly and personal fast, now didn...Well, that got ugly and personal fast, now didn't it? Reminds me of my elementary school children. Nice..<br /><br />Whatever you want to call it, Natalie's intentions are very clear, regardless of the vastly superior intellectual muscle you may show on the internets. Its about her home, nothing else. Acehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15393598271822971014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-34225029893688890742015-12-23T14:38:42.645-05:002015-12-23T14:38:42.645-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Acehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15393598271822971014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-2591110721162784792015-12-23T13:34:22.753-05:002015-12-23T13:34:22.753-05:00I am not sure what the official qualifications are...I am not sure what the official qualifications are to be a MORON are but based on her past support for the Carmelo Garcia she certainly qualifies for a honorary moron or at very least a deceitful political opportunist... just my opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-48951943701220118722015-12-23T13:01:03.044-05:002015-12-23T13:01:03.044-05:00She (morales) sounds like a moron. She (morales) sounds like a moron. snoopyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14372468821788489676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-55906622925488304602015-12-23T12:33:48.992-05:002015-12-23T12:33:48.992-05:00Morales is claiming that Zimmer wishes to protect ...Morales is claiming that Zimmer wishes to protect the real estate owned by the Rockefeller Group, the very organization she didn't personally usher through the approvals process at Christie's request?<br /><br />Does she hear herself?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-21440242618071548432015-12-23T10:47:38.714-05:002015-12-23T10:47:38.714-05:00Bingo. Shocked at the misinformation (and unsubsta...Bingo. Shocked at the misinformation (and unsubstantiated allegations) spread by Natalie Morales. Grafix_Avengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09277322207313098473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-64015723375348776992015-12-23T10:33:30.326-05:002015-12-23T10:33:30.326-05:00Serious members of this group must know what it lo...Serious members of this group must know what it looks like.<br /><br />People seeking to protect their homes who keep their identities secret? And so close to the now-infamous Citizens for Accountability repackaging of MSTA? And attracting the likes of the always-on-the-make Russos, Castellanos, Garcias and the eternally batsh!t Melina White (and "liking" all her posts)? And you can't see the website without requesting access? And pretending a federal grant can but used however the city would like so it can "FIX THE INFRASTRUCTURE FIRST"?<br /><br />It's an awful lot of fog and mirrors and bullsh!t and machinery to shoot down one fore-doomed proposal, dontcha think? <br /><br />Shoot the messenger if you like, but no one is going to trust you until you come out of the shadows.DangCatfishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04937303419286057543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-42302456820285882372015-12-23T09:28:05.289-05:002015-12-23T09:28:05.289-05:00Based upon personal information, Ms. Morales is, I...Based upon personal information, Ms. Morales is, IMO, a clueless and blithering idiot. Her moronic comments came as no surprise, as, besides being as dumb as a rock, she is very impressed with herself. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-34037006142090962262015-12-23T08:28:36.695-05:002015-12-23T08:28:36.695-05:00If the Mayor had not pursued every avenue open to ...If the Mayor had not pursued every avenue open to Hoboken to help prevent another Sandy, including getting this 230 million grant and beginning these studies, she'd be taking criticism for doing nothing.<br /><br />Even if SOS and the other groups didn't have their own agendas, which they do, the fact is that all of that noise is meaningless unless people take their ideas and opinions and share them at the public meetings and submit the forms to the appropriate entities. <br /><br />In the social media echo-chambers that have popped up, and on email chains withe more names than a Manhattan phone book, apparently, not participating in the public process lo these many months does not prevent people from hurling accusations at the administration, screaming at those they don't agree with and reacting out of fear to the misinformation they've been fed, including Natalie Morales's specious claims. She should know better.<br /><br />This is important: Show-up and grow-up.<br /><br /><br /> <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-69481956222349097412015-12-22T18:13:50.620-05:002015-12-22T18:13:50.620-05:00Mikey Russo needs talking points on a 7-2 council....Mikey Russo needs talking points on a 7-2 council. I can hear him now, bloviating how the city shouldn't "rush" into a "hastily designed plans." What me worry- the flood waters didn't reach Mikey's apartment at Church Towers. I wonder if this is payback for tanking Vision 20/20 which anyone can guess came with Russo bennies. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-74073914832656156652015-12-22T18:02:15.570-05:002015-12-22T18:02:15.570-05:00Any web site or organization that is based on misi...Any web site or organization that is based on misinformation and continues to put that misinformation even when the real true facts have been made public is sketchy and I would consider suspect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-18499506460570505172015-12-22T17:33:33.757-05:002015-12-22T17:33:33.757-05:00"They are not saying to do nothing, just not ..."They are not saying to do nothing, just not to do this."<br /><br />Bullshit. That's precisely what many (though certainly not all) are saying: "do nothing." At the museum meeting many people were literally chanting "do nothing give back the money." They weren't saying Plan A sucks but plan __ has potential let's explore it and make it better. That's what people who actually care about solving the problem are saying. That's what GA is saying but then she like thousands of her neighbors flooded and I doubt Natalie Morales and the "do nothing" NIMBY SOS crowd who didn't flood care a hoot about the rest of the City that did. <br /><br />Hiding behind meaningless mantras like "fix the infrastructure first" is just putting lipstick on the pig. If you're not for doing something real that actually addresses the problem of storm surge then you're for doing nothing. <br /><br />The reality is that the just like with the pump by Maxwell the nature of the problem requires a solution that isn't located in the areas most at risk and that's exactly when NIMBY always rears its ugly head. <br /><br />The distortions perpetrated by the SOS crowd are NIMBY at its worst and as GA points out you can always count on the dark side (my guess is Liebler but that's only an opinion) to try to exploit both NIMBY as well as the more legitimate concerns of residents whenever and wherever it rears its ugly head. Does anybody remember the "Municipal Garage is moving to Pino hoax fomented by Mike Russo a few years back? <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-14033892697275404222015-12-22T17:03:42.523-05:002015-12-22T17:03:42.523-05:00Ace 5:00- Fair enough.Ace 5:00- Fair enough.Grafix_Avengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09277322207313098473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-20691386523525435892015-12-22T17:00:09.286-05:002015-12-22T17:00:09.286-05:00The wall imagery is definitely hyperbole, and tyin...The wall imagery is definitely hyperbole, and tying it to infrastructure is definitely misguided on someone's part at this point in the process. Also, I think they are linking any and all media giving the concerns play as someone's misguided attempt to use social media. Certainly linking anything to Al Sullivan's crappy column is misguided at best.<br /><br />I don't know who is behind the page, but the people I know that are lining up behind it is for one reason and one reason only-stopping Concept Plan A- and there is very little time to get the word out prior to the 12/31 deadline for public commentary.Acehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15393598271822971014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-42301468798505856572015-12-22T16:52:13.802-05:002015-12-22T16:52:13.802-05:00Ace 4:35- I don't see the "SOS" grou...Ace 4:35- I don't see the "SOS" group as sponsoring the petition. I don't disagree with the spirit of the petition, though some of the FACTS in the preamble are wrong, and the sponsors should consider amending the paragraph. <br /><br />It falsely claims: "The mayor now <b>wants to spend that money on A WALL ON GARDEN STREET</b> from Weehawken Cove as far as 12th Street, destroying a historic residential neighborhood..." <br /><br />Umm, no she doesn't. IMO the concerned citizens ought to drop the alarmist rhetoric and stop taking shots at the mayor, and focus on opposition to concept plan A. Grafix_Avengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09277322207313098473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8982097314224201904.post-58144519305376271212015-12-22T16:41:17.416-05:002015-12-22T16:41:17.416-05:00Ace- 4:11 PM, Concept Plan A stinks, we can all ag...Ace- 4:11 PM, Concept Plan A stinks, we can all agree. Statement coherency? There is nothing coherent about the misinformation being blown by SOS, and tying it into infrastructure repair. NOTHING. It is political messaging, and coordinated apparently with "Anonymous" who printed midnight fliers, posted them, created a web page with a photoshop of a giant IMAGINARY wall on a Hoboken street scape. <br /><br />I do not denigrate a single concerned person- I hate the idea of walls on interior streets. But this is a misinformation campaign run amok, which SOS appears to be sponsoring AND tying to politics. People should attend meetings, write letters to appropriate persons and agencies, make themselves heard. Grafix_Avengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09277322207313098473noreply@blogger.com