Thursday, June 20, 2013

HHA Parking Lot Playgrounds

Vision 20/20 surrounds buildings with parking lots

It doesn't take 20/20 Vision to read a Vision 20/20 Concept Plan

And that's why HHA Executive Director Carmelo Garcia has withheld it from the City Council and general public.  Because what is on the plan-  a reduction in open space, and the majority of it utilized for parking lots, would be unacceptable to the general public, and the HHA residents themselves.  Further, this plan has 25% more dwelling units than the existing 806, adding more density for the current HHA population.

The victims are the HHA residents, who are being lied to about the Mayor, her City Council allies, and those who care about residents NOT lining the pockets of politicians.

Take a look and see what the current Vision 20/20  does with its"open space" (in red):


That's great, if you happen to be a CAR.

If you're a KID who wants to walk outside and throw a ball - not so much.

In fact, this density of buildings surrounded by parking lots is an accident waiting to happen.  To a child.  Or a mom pushing a stroller.
Parking lots are a common sight in the US and so are accidents that take place in them. A staggering one of every five motor vehicle accidents take place in a parking lot, and 14% of all claims of auto damage involve collisions therein. One of the major reasons behind collisions, injuries and fatalities that happen in parking lots is the false sense of security motorists and pedestrians feel. Pedestrians and drivers expect traffic to move more slowly, which means that caution takes a backseat.

2.    Pedestrian Accidents in Parking/Parking Lots Involving Children
NHTSA estimates that 22 percent (more than one-fifth) of children between ages 5 and 9 killed in traffic crashes were pedestrians. Most of these accidents occurred because drivers failed to see kids while backing up their vehicles.
How ironic that the people pushing this plan at midnight, hiding it from the public are PLAYING THE RACE CARD  against anyone who wants the safety of residents to come first and not kick-backs.

This is all about trashing the people who WANT to  redevelop the HHA, and Vision 20/20 to give residents green, safe open space for their kids not parking lots to play in, and buildings that have back-up generators to support them next time a hurricane hits.

The colorful concept plan doesn't cut it.

Executive Director Garcia is STOPPING the process from going forward by not allowing the public and City Council to participate in this huge and significant redevelopment of a huge swath of Hoboken.

Want to know why GA depicts Beth Mason with a Pinocchio nose?  Because she tells whoppers like this:



21 comments:

  1. Only a complete moron would consider a parking lot open space. Next they will be telling kids to play tag in the road b/c that is open space too. Complete stupidity.

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  2. Nice to know that people in subsidized housing are gonna get free parking. How many current HHA residents have cars anyway?

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  3. rooftops are also "open space", maybe carmelo will install a few trampolines up top and kids can propel themselves over the side! c'mon, he's thinking of the children!!

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    1. OMG... that is funny.

      Only the parking lot-playground is not. I know of an 8-year old boy who was killed in a parking lot. A car backed out suddenly and that was it. A friend of mine was close to his family.

      The fact that these individuals are hiding this from the public and will not allow any input from the community tells us all we need to know.

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  4. I say let them have this if this is what they want. Let them have 25% more units but no PILOT on any of those additional units. They pay full taxes as if they were new construction in any other project in town. Let the HHA residents have substantially less open space if that is what they want. Let them even have parking in massive lots that flood if they want that. Let them have dangerous places for their kids to play instead of playgrounds. Let them live in buildings that are owned by a developer who may or may not let them stay once the mortgage is paid off and 30 yr PILOT on the 800 HHA units expire. If things turn out bad and they lose their homes, we can all remind them that this is exactly what they asked for back in 2013. But I draw the line on the PILOT for all those new units because the PILOT adversely affects the average resident for their benefit by making us pay taxes to provide services they consume but contribute next to nothing towards paying for. Every single unit above and beyond the original 800 or so must pay the full amount in taxes they would normally pay if those units were built elsewhere.

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  5. great to see some storys with some substince today. was getting tired of ther joe buying matres stuff

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    1. You should be reading this instead of online articles: http://www.dummies.com/store/product/Teaching-Kids-to-Spell-For-Dummies.productCd-0764576240.html

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    2. Oh shove it, you smug little troll. Please go fling monkey poo elsewhere. Preferably with Mattarino as your target.

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    4. Anon at 4:32, Sounds like you are physically threatening a poster. "I know who you are, be suprised come a few months from now"

      KHoboken I hope you take a screen shot of this.

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    6. No threats or pissing on my floor. Enjoy the surf.

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  6. Not worried about the Beach Boys at all. Silly grifters that have nothing of substance to offer.

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  7. Liked your post on Vision 20/20. One thing you might want to point out that the federal government's mandates for inner city housing was to reduce density and height and to get away from life on concrete and asphalt that many project-dwellers endured from traditional design. By creating play areas and open space that are parking lots, they are basically going against the planning design federal officials wanted, and giving urban kids the same unappealing play areas that existed under the original model



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  8. What happened to the original plan for 44 NICE units in
    a new building with amenities, a conference room, a playground, etc?
    It seems to have escalated into what 800 APARTMENTS with four parking lots on site? What happened? Too many fingers in the pie!?

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  9. If these HHA buildings are supposedly for low income people. Do that many of them have cars? They are expensive to own? Will the parking garages be free for them? If this is really about a need for new housing, then why is the federal money being used to build parking garages? How do the rest of us, get in on this free parking? Why rebuild in a known flood area?

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  10. Now that Greg Lincoln is moving out of the country at the end of the summer, who will replace him? Or can he be like Jake and fly back for meetings? Maybe call in? What bothers me is when Greg was appointed everyone knew that his spouse was taking a job overseas and that Greg's brief stay was only temporary. Greg and everyone knew he would never take any of the required classes but the reformers had no issues booting that disabled old lady off the HHA for not taking all of her classes. Stay classy Reform!

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    1. Hey Anon. You just broke the news to ME. I did not know Lincoln was "leaving the country" and will check that myself (no offense).

      Stop the "booting the old lady off" bullshit. She had 1 1/2 years to take the classes and she turned down offers to be driven there and back. Whose fault is that? If she is that frail and weak that she cannot perform her duties then she doesn't belong on that or any board. So cut the bullshit.

      You are clearly an 'authentic' tool.

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    2. The same ahole is peddling the same drivel on MSV. I love the moral equivalency. You'll never hear word one from these douchebags about Tim Occhipinti's 575 paid workers, Beth's wheeling, Russo's bribe-taking, the fact that the open space at 20/20 is actually open space for cars. But if life takes an unpaid reform-minded board member to another city - that's a big sinister problem.

      Eff em. Eff every goddam one of em. The day I look to one of these scumbags for a definition of "classy" will be the day after the world ends.

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    3. You are so right, Leaks.

      Being told to "stay classy" by one of these corruption apologists is like getting an etiquette lesson from Pol Pot.

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    4. It shows that he knows he's being a jerkoff that he's using anonymous. He doesn't want to be associated with or have to explain/defend his ugly remarks. He doesn't want to face Lincoln. He doesn't want to have to explain why he gives a rat's ass about HHA or the BOE where he also makes vile remarks.

      He wants reform to like him and wants to sneak around dumping on reform. Like I said: complete ahole. Anyone who still trusts the guy should have his head examined.

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